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The Grizmallt Armada & Culture
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| Crown_Prince_Ordan | Date: Saturday, 26 April 14, 12:35 PM | Message # 1 |
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| The Armada, Tradition and Culture of the Kingdom of Grizmallt
The Armada of the Grizmallt Royals has been used for centuries to guarantee the security of their massive world spanning industrial base, and has allowed them to even keep out intimidation such as the Corporate Alliance, Techno Union and Commerce Guild whenever they've made an implicit threat with a "friendly visit" by their capital craft. Proudly independent and largely closet humanocentrics with little faith in the Republic lasting much longer, they work long hours, pay high taxes and have a defense force to secure them tightly against attack.
It's a state kept running by effective isolation, politicization of education from the earliest levels, social and popular mythology, paranoia, fear and the media.. But it has nice sunsets. Officially aliens are welcome but in practice there are such cavernous bureaucratic jumps to make and hurdles to cross that getting a visa to Grizmallt as an alien (unless a Republic servant or official clearly) is largely impossible. This renders Grizmallt one of the most homogeneous populations of Humans in the Galaxy. Other Core Worlders require no visa and most humans can gain one easily enough.
Deployments are possible but anything more than deploying small groups of ships from the Armada would result in unrest and anything like leaving Grizmallt resembling anything so horrifying as undefended would result in riot, revolution and the overthrow of the monarchy in all probability. The people of Grizmallt are kept (by decades of royal propaganda sponsored across all local holonet stations, many liberal sections of the holonet being censored) in fear of aliens, a collapsing human founded Republic and that only by working hard and paying tax can they be safe, the ships they can see in orbit are their visual assurance (along with the defense redoubts built in each neighborhood and patrols of the Grizmallt that are regular sights all across the planet.
The Right Honourable Grizmallt Armada
Slow, pondering, but while it's up there above the people of Grizmallt they feel safe from the evils of the Galaxy.
1 Indomitable-class Dreadnaught Heavy Cruiser
3 Tranquility-class Heavy Cruiser
3 Dreadnaught-class Heavy Cruiser (the standard upgraded configuration)
1 Modified Broadside-class Cruiser kdb-1 - Finding sustaining torpedoes after every engagement to be an expensive outlay, the Grizmallt cannily decided to replace this ship's armament of 40
Warhead Launchers with 40 Turbolasers drawing power from individual generators on each.
9 Bireme-class Line Corvettes (matching the slow pondering nature of this classic core fleet, acting as escorts to the larger capital ships)
4 CR-90 Corvette
6 IPV-1 System Patrol Craft (outfitted with extra sensor technology to serve as pickets)
His Most Royal and Secular Majesty Henrik III
By the Providence of the Universe, of the Sovereign World of Alderaan, of Avirandel, Delaya, Avishan and Raisa and of His other Realms and Territories, Prince-Regent. Head of the Alderaaan Sector Commonwealth, Defender of Secularism and Steward of the Commenor Run. &c
Representative of Alderaan in the Galactic Senate.
King of the Grizmallt System
Chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee
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| Mike | Date: Saturday, 26 April 14, 2:44 PM | Message # 2 |
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| Before I even touch this, I want to know if any of Grizmallt's ships will be used in conjunction with any of Alderaan's fleet in any way, shape or form.
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| Crown_Prince_Ordan | Date: Saturday, 26 April 14, 4:36 PM | Message # 3 |
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| They may be. They're after all connected by a personal union. But as detailed foreign deployments are unpopular. The smaller ships might well share ports etc though if Grizmallt had ships out on the rim. As for operations together, only against someone who was perceived as a big threat to either world or the Republic (which would mean there might well be other worlds, Judicial forces, Jedi etc fighting), demanding immediate action. Obviously the flagship cant leave the region though.
Also if one ship was in the others port and there was an attack, theyd clearly cooperate. But they aren't a unified fleet. More like Britain and the US's relationship but with slightly less military commitment.
His Most Royal and Secular Majesty Henrik III
By the Providence of the Universe, of the Sovereign World of Alderaan, of Avirandel, Delaya, Avishan and Raisa and of His other Realms and Territories, Prince-Regent. Head of the Alderaaan Sector Commonwealth, Defender of Secularism and Steward of the Commenor Run. &c
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King of the Grizmallt System
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| Mike | Date: Saturday, 26 April 14, 5:04 PM | Message # 4 |
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| The same issue is coming up here, similar to the one for the Alderaan militia and the same one I will face, no doubt, in The Ciutric Hegemony Interstellar Protection Force request.
Now, granted, Ordan wears the hat of Crown Prince of Alderaan, but he's also King of the Grizmallt System. As such, I'm keeping Alderaan's ships in mind when I make this decision, since Ordan has command over both because of his position.
1x Indomitable-class dreadnaught heavy cruiser (on hold pending a finishing of the request)
1x Tranquility-class heavy cruiser (approve)
3x Bireme-class corvettes (approve)
3x CR90 corvettes (approve)
6x IPV-1 patrol craft (approve)
I'm going to have to deny:
2x Tranquility-class heavy cruiser
3x Dreadnaught-class heavy cruiser
1x Modified Broadside-class (sorry man, clear dates on the Broadside; it's not around yet)
6x Bireme-class corvettes
1x CR90 corvette
Alderaan already has a heavy-hitting armada. Grizmallt is welcome to add some defensive emplacements or snubfighters, in reasonable numbers, in my opinion, but I'm not likely to come around on any higher heavy ship numbers.
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| Crown_Prince_Ordan | Date: Saturday, 26 April 14, 7:52 PM | Message # 5 |
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| What if they're incapable of being used in the same battle aggressively? Added (26 April 14, 7:52 PM)
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I mean, I intend the world to be xenophobic, isolationist in the ideological sense (but still happy to trade with the Republic) etc.. So really their fleet wouldn't be deployed to the Rim or anything. But if theres a siege of Coruscant or something, they'd naturally help the Alderaanians and Republic in general, if that makes sense. Theyd also patrol their own space but they'd certainly not aggressively war alongside Alderaan no matter who was king.
His Most Royal and Secular Majesty Henrik III
By the Providence of the Universe, of the Sovereign World of Alderaan, of Avirandel, Delaya, Avishan and Raisa and of His other Realms and Territories, Prince-Regent. Head of the Alderaaan Sector Commonwealth, Defender of Secularism and Steward of the Commenor Run. &c
Representative of Alderaan in the Galactic Senate.
King of the Grizmallt System
Chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee
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| Jace_Varitek | Date: Tuesday, 06 May 14, 1:02 PM | Message # 6 |
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| Before I get into the meat of the request, Mike, what's your opinion in retrospect of Ordan's marriage? I don't think either of us approved of it with the understanding that it was putting Ordan "in charge" of Grizmallt, did we? The marriage request wasn't presented overtly as a request for control of Grizmallt and the Ciutric Hegemony. I suppose my question more specifically is this: would you have approved of Ordan's marriage if you thought it would result in Ordan exercising player control over Grizmallt in the RP? I don't think I would have, personally. A request for a marriage is one thing, a request for a faction is another, no?
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| Mike | Date: Tuesday, 06 May 14, 6:24 PM | Message # 7 |
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| Well, I did not see it coming, the control of Grizmallt and the Ciutric Hegemony via Ordan and Kadram's marriages. I assumed (perhaps it was wrong of me to assume?) that the original request would be less... involved. Granted, I examined the request less because it was requested as a birthday present. However, to quote some of the original text:
Quote In another marriage Emir Kadram of Rothana would marry the Duchess of the Ciutric Hegemony, Lorelia Pestage, to tighten his worlds grip on their shipping market more than love.
Quote while her husband runs the business of state for both worlds.
The first, of course, applies to Kadram and the second, to Ordan.
I must agree, that had I known the case would result in this, that I would not have been so quick to approve of either marriage. However, now that we've already had it done, I can only suggest that we be rather stringent with Grizmallt and the Ciutric Hegemony. Mind you, I've been excessively generous with the request I was considering approving for Grizmallt; a request I am still considering scaling back further.
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| Jace_Varitek | Date: Tuesday, 06 May 14, 9:13 PM | Message # 8 |
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| Quote Mike (  ) However, now that we've already had it done, I can only suggest that we be rather stringent with Grizmallt and the Ciutric Hegemony
Even if we did approve of Ordan's control of Grizmallt and Kadram's control of the Ciutric Hegemony (which remains questionable, but let's say we did), we approved of Ordan's and Kadram's control of these factions as non-active, NPC factions. So although I'd be fine with Ordan including control of Grizmallt among the many titles in his signature, and even exercising that control in the RP to the point of having Grizmallt make joint-statements with Alderaan, or say, participate in an Alderaan-sponsored trade boycott, I'd rather not go beyond there into control of Grizmallt's armed forces in the RP. An equivalent example would be how Yag'Dhul was basically a vassal state of Brentaal in A Galaxy At War, but it never had any active presence in the RP except as a base for Brentaal's ships and a market for its goods. I think this is how I'd rather see Grizmallt and the Ciutric Hegemony portrayed.
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| Mike | Date: Tuesday, 06 May 14, 11:20 PM | Message # 9 |
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| I'd be fine with them, as you say, not having an active presence.
Working out the armed forces of the Ciutric Hegemony and Grizmallt (unless they come under attack, and we already have a rule governing such, in terms of assumed defenses to an extent) would be problematic, especially with the mutual interest they share with Rothana and Alderaan, respectively. I'm all for Jace's suggestion.
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| Crown_Prince_Ordan | Date: Thursday, 08 May 14, 5:01 PM | Message # 10 |
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| The Hegemony is governed effectively independently of Rothana. Which is really just a KDY facility that Kadram has the title of "Sovereign" over. Rothana has no foreign policy other than that of KDY's and Rothana and the Hegemony are hardly going to ally in any sense outside that.
As for Grizmallt, I'm happy for the fleet to be essentially (and indeed culturally) static at Grizmallt as I outlined in the cultural sections. However, I would like a small element to be able to leave to prop up humanocentric movements even Alderaan might find slightly dodgy from time to time. This is the deployment of the 1 Tranquility and 2 Biremes...
1 Indomitable-class Dreadnaught Heavy Cruiser
1 Tranquility-class Heavy Cruiser (the only large ship able to be deployed outside Grizmallt's space)
2 Bireme-class Line Corvettes (matching the slow pondering nature of this classic core fleet, acting as escorts to the larger capital ships, escort the Tranquility-class)
4 Dreadnaught-class Heavy Cruiser (the standard upgraded configuration)
12 IPV-1 System Patrol Craft (outfitted with extra sensor technology to serve as pickets)
His Most Royal and Secular Majesty Henrik III
By the Providence of the Universe, of the Sovereign World of Alderaan, of Avirandel, Delaya, Avishan and Raisa and of His other Realms and Territories, Prince-Regent. Head of the Alderaaan Sector Commonwealth, Defender of Secularism and Steward of the Commenor Run. &c
Representative of Alderaan in the Galactic Senate.
King of the Grizmallt System
Chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee
Message edited by Crown_Prince_Ordan - Thursday, 08 May 14, 5:02 PM |
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