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Cygnus Re-Militarization
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| Jamie_the_Hutt | Date: Saturday, 01 March 14, 9:29 PM | Message # 1 |
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| STARTING AGAIN TO AVOID CLUTTER
All ships from my previous request not listed here to be considered removed from the fleet (mostly sold to Telos IV)
The New Cygnus Imperial Navy
■ 1 Corona-class Frigate - All sources (I've been looking for ages) just site "Before the Clone Wars" for the Corona-class Frigate, if not call it a Prototype. To be Jamie's Flagship. Consider his Minstrel-class sold to pay for this.
■ 1 Alderaanian War Frigate (current ship carrying over unmodified)
■ 9 Emperor Jamulon-class Destroyers (Resolute-class Light Cruisers)
■ 1 Rothana Picket Ships
■ 3 TL-1200 Refitted Transport
■ 1 Etti-class Corvette
System Defense Starfighters
■ Between 8 and 12 starfighters per system (now 3/4 of these RHE designs)
Restriction:
Royal Starfighter Corps Fighters alloted to each world may not fight in combat outside their home system (so I can't consolidate all the small defense squadrons into one huge wing)
No caveats as to where the fleet is moved, but if it's moved and leaves a world undefended, the world is vulnerable and it will be seen to be my incompetence that caused any attack on weak points.
Sales Ongoing:
Praetorian-class Frigate - Sale to Lorrd Pending
Invincible-class Dreadnaught Heavy Cruiser - Seeking bidders, will accept bid even below the reserve.
GR-75 expected to sell easily on the market.
Minstrel-class Yacht - Expected to sell easily
The Cygnus Imperial Aquatic Navy
1 Submarine each with 2x ST2 Concussion Missile racks able to engage land, air, orbital or underwater targets
The Huttese Expeditionary Force
Being sent to help Cygnus as per their treaty obligations. These can't leave the Cygnus Empire and return to Hutt Space upon conclusion of hostilities with the Pius Dea Cult.
1 Maurauder-class Corvettes
3 Citadel-class Civilian Cruiser
Also several hundred Mercenaries donated to be the marines for these craft. JTH would also be extended the cash needed to hire any player run mercenary groups he is able (likely to hire Mandalorians if possible)
Jamulon Desilijic Tiure
known as "Jamie the Hutt"
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Nephew to Jabba the Hutt
Associate Member of the Hutt Cartel
Message edited by Jamie_the_Hutt - Friday, 28 March 14, 3:24 PM |
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| Mike | Date: Tuesday, 04 March 14, 9:30 AM | Message # 2 |
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| I'm going to skip over the Sabaoth for a moment and address the larger portion of the fleet for a moment. Don't worry though, I will get back to you on that.
First off, I'll note that a lot of your characters are buying your own products. I see this with a number of requests (well, a few at least) and I know Jace wanted to foster the spirit of selling to other groups within the roleplay. That being said, since you seem to be requesting mostly your own items for your characters and fleets, I'd like to see some sort of negative aspect hit Rothana, perhaps for being willing to deal with a non-Republic customer who is also wanted in Republic space? Just food for thought.
So down to brass tacks.
I approve:
Sale of 1x Praetorian-class
Sale of 4x G9 freighters
Sale of 3x medium transports
1x Invincible-class heavy cruiser to be raised by a shipyard and repaired (caveat, it cannot be a shipyard you control)
1x Ubrikkian frigate (pending a removal of escort quad laser cannons to be replaced by, perhaps, normal quad laser cannons?)
1 Alderaanian War Frigate (current ship carrying over unmodified)
3x Rothana Picket Ships (willing to approve more here)
1x Consular-class Communications Frigate - Standard unarmed Consular-class with a Communications Suite Salon Pod (To jam this ship's comms takes 3 turns) - pending a discussion of number of ships needed to jam, amount of turns, etc.
1x GR-75 Medium Transport - Tanker converted to be a Minesweeper (has 1 Quadlaser)
Between 8 and 12 starfighters per system (now 3/4 of these RHE designs)
The Cygnus Marines
2x Trade Federation Submarines
Now, I am going to fully deny the creation of the Emperor Jamulon-class, for reasons which I will happily post and get to, once I get back from this machine gun range.
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| Crown_Prince_Ordan | Date: Tuesday, 04 March 14, 9:44 AM | Message # 3 |
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| If the Emperor Jamulon class is an issue, just switch it for maybe the Munifex-class? I'd like you to re-review it now I've dropped the Sabaoth connection, got a nice new picture for it etc. In markets outside the Cygnus Empire the same ship (but with a RHE made superstructure) will be marketed as the
"Vigilant-class Destroyer" so it isn't associated with the cygnites and can well well to other worlds.
His Most Royal and Secular Majesty Henrik III
By the Providence of the Universe, of the Sovereign World of Alderaan, of Avirandel, Delaya, Avishan and Raisa and of His other Realms and Territories, Prince-Regent. Head of the Alderaaan Sector Commonwealth, Defender of Secularism and Steward of the Commenor Run. &c
Representative of Alderaan in the Galactic Senate.
King of the Grizmallt System
Chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee
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| Mike | Date: Wednesday, 05 March 14, 1:30 AM | Message # 4 |
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| Not to sound uncharitable, but Cygnus already has a defense fleet.
Under a number of other characters, you're requesting copious amounts of material to read through, and I'm trying to field your requests as quickly as possible.
Can this one be closed and resubmitted at a later date? I don't see anyone lining up to assault Cygnus anytime soon, as it stands.
That being said, I'll approve of the numbers of what you have, minus custom ships. You need to slow that down a wee bit. Go for canon designs for a while.
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| Chancellor_Kruus | Date: Wednesday, 05 March 14, 2:01 PM | Message # 5 |
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| I am switching out the Entire Cygnus Navy (in the other request) for this new fleet, funded from the increased prosperity Jamie's rule has brought, as well as the numerous sales of government property and backhanders.
I have sold the old fleet and so require a new one, as stated the ships would be phased out of the old fleet (mostly transferred to Telos IV) and the new craft brought in incrementally. Perhaps nobody plans an invasion of the Cygnus Star Empire, but if one followed recent affairs it has signed an extremely provocative Trade Agreement locking the Trade Federation out of it's territory and granting another shipper a variety of valuable monopolies.
Jamie has also worked against the Trade Federation (not known publicly, but it's a matter of time) in Republic space by launching raids to jeopardize their average performance on certain routes and so give a certain other line a shot at them. If any intelligence organization takes an interest the involvement of Desilijic Affiliated Mercenaries on a retainer in Jamulon's name are the likely culprits for hitting the TF routes, all hell could break loose.
Those who do not do business with the Trade Federation find a sudden increase in piracy and raids against shipping, and I am sure there is worse for those who raid them.
The Cygnus Empire also is threatened internally by the Kerubielite Raiders who pose a constant threat to life and welfare. Equally, by the time this reform is enacted the Empire will be concerned with retaking Ord Wylan and also with a possible war from groups of Republic Origin (as the Ord Wylan Rp is still about 30 minutes into day 1 several months ago).
Jamulon's Empire is acting provocatively to a big player who will now shaft them, fears invasion and an extended war with a Republic Faction, they have to form a counter-invasion force, they've got to cover their internal trade routes as normal and all the standard duties of a fleet. This is the time more than ever the Cygnus Empire requires a stronger military.
The new items essentially run to for nine new frigates, four patrol boats, an anti-fighter ship and converting a Freighter to sweep for mines, as well as buying a comms craft (a direct response to the Jamming at Ord Wylan), plus I sold most of the old fleet.
This is a fleet for the whole Cygnus Star Empire and not just a world. This fleet will be constantly divided into different units unless in rare circumstances. They propose to have 10 proper warships (since the Alderaanian Frigate will be sold once I have a buyer), none above frigate size, designed to launch invasion forces. Even as a single fleet all the Cygnus Forces could be defeated easily by a tiny number of Trade Federation converted freighters.
They won't ever be deployed in large numbers except in exceptional circumstances, specifically there will be one where around half a dozen will lead a relief mission to Ord Wylan to retake it for the Empire. Even if they went to war and did need to launch an attack, theyd have to leave much of the fleet at home and so deploying more than half it's number numerically wouldn't be done in practice.Added (05 March 14, 2:01 PM)
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Please note I have decided in order to economize and focus on a strong defensive navy, both the Alderaan-class War Frigate and the Invincible-class hulk are to be put on sale.
So this reduces the cost massively (by not investing tens of millions in repairing an old ship) and also has the potential to raise money from the Alderaan-class War Frigate if a suitable offer comes along. Indeed I may ask to chuck in a quad more Picket Corvettes (if you're feeling generous) or something to sweeten the pill of giving away so much tonnage in the form of the Cruiser.
How do you gentlemen feel?
Chancellor Luneray Kruus
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President of the Senate &c
Representative of the People of the Humbarine Sector
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| Mike | Date: Wednesday, 05 March 14, 10:49 PM | Message # 6 |
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| I'm willing to toss in two (2) more Ice-class, and a Class 1000 (Munifex) cruiser. I know you put a lot of work into the Emperor Jamulon-class, but honestly... too many custom designs for the time being. Maybe if Jace or Jaron or others were submitting custom designs, I'd be more inclined to look deeper into this particular vessel at this moment, but everything I've seen is coming from you specifically. Not to be rude, or anything. Just... overwhelming. I'd be more amenable to it as play goes on with the Cygnus Empire.
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| Jamie_the_Hutt | Date: Thursday, 06 March 14, 1:18 AM | Message # 7 |
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| I should clarify once again the Emperor-Jamulon-class and the claims of his design are fallacious but was an agreed part of the settlement he wanted to boost his image as well as his fleet. The designs will belong to Rothana Heavy Engineering who will be free to prodduce it as the Resolute-class and be available to worlds for purchase.
Jamulon Desilijic Tiure
known as "Jamie the Hutt"
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Bey of the Cygnus Star Empire
Nephew to Jabba the Hutt
Associate Member of the Hutt Cartel
Message edited by Jamie_the_Hutt - Thursday, 06 March 14, 9:30 AM |
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| Mike | Date: Thursday, 06 March 14, 10:07 AM | Message # 8 |
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| Well, if I'm approving the Resolute-class, I'm going to have to pull back the Class 1000, since I intended it as a replacement for the custom ship. However, I'll go ahead and tentatively approve the design. Still like Jace to weigh in on it, but the rest of the fleet should be good.
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| Crown_Prince_Ordan | Date: Thursday, 06 March 14, 10:29 AM | Message # 9 |
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| The Ubrikkian lets swap for an Etti Freighter. Ubrikkian Frigates don't exist for fifty years I sadly discovered today.
His Most Royal and Secular Majesty Henrik III
By the Providence of the Universe, of the Sovereign World of Alderaan, of Avirandel, Delaya, Avishan and Raisa and of His other Realms and Territories, Prince-Regent. Head of the Alderaaan Sector Commonwealth, Defender of Secularism and Steward of the Commenor Run. &c
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| Jace_Varitek | Date: Friday, 07 March 14, 11:04 PM | Message # 10 |
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| I will weigh in on it. However, while I don't begrudge long requests, I do ask for an understanding from requesters that the longer the request, the longer it's going to take to read and consider it, and since there have been a large number of large requests, consequently a large number of requests have taken a long, long time to get through the request forum. I admit to de-prioritizing such requests to a certain extent in the interest of moving along smaller and more concise requests from other players (and spending some time RPing, too). I do beseech requesters for everyone's sake (including perhaps most of all their own) to make smaller, more frequent requests that deal with a limited number of assumptions and propositions and thus can be much more quickly considered and approved for use in the RP. The overall number of things being requested could thus be exactly the same, but a difference in method could result in a much faster outcome for the requester.
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