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The Indomitable-class Dreadnaught Heavy Cruiser
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| Emir_Kadram | Date: Wednesday, 05 March 14, 11:13 PM | Message # 1 |
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| The Indomitable-class Dreadnaught Heavy Cruiser
Production information
Standardized Refit of the Invincible-class Dreadnaught Heavy Cruiser
Manufacturers of original ship and fittings
Rendili Stardrive
Vaufthau Shipyards Limited
Technical Design of Conversion Components
Kuat Drive Yards
Duro Shipwrights Guild
Authorized Conversion Yards
Kuat Drive Yards
Duro Starshipwright Shipyards
Significant Contributors
Hoersch-Kessel Drive Inc. noted for Production of Modernized Generators
and Power Distribution Grid
Colicoid Creation Nest for the critical software coding that causes the
Droid Crew to operate together like an insect hive.
Taim & Bak as well as Borstel Inc. for their design of weapons fitting the old emplacements.
Ship chassis used
Invincible-class Dreadnaught Heavy Cruiser
Components/Systems Removed Prior to Refit
All consoles and computer systems.All spaces designe for crew habitation75% of interior non-bulkhead walls.Old Reactor, Wiring and Power Distribution System.The Weapons.
Hull Upgrade
Old structural braces reinforced with tensor fields and modern alloy rods inserted through main structure.
Much of the hull armour is carefully disassembled, electroplated with Duralloy to prevent wear indefinitely before refitting the plating in its original position but using much stronger modern bonding techniques to increase hull integrity.
Interior Upgrade
Whole ship is redesigned to make efficient use of space for the small crew required. Old heavy walls are replaced with thinner but stronger modern alloys.The interior is made more airy and pleasant.Modern, more powerful generator, more efficient power distribution system and higher capacity/safer cabling replaced throughout.
New Components in space opened up in the Hull during refit
Droid Storage, Recharge and Maintenence Area (depressurized during routine circumstances)Four Dozen New Power Generators of Various Sizes.Colicoid Creation Nest Supercomputer which runs the ship day to day like an organic being, with droids and slaved systems acting as its organs connected by neurons made of cable. Every droid aboard is linked in and so tasks are achieved quicker and more efficienly than organics could.A Duro Shipwrights Guild designed combat and tactical analysis computer advises crew and relays orders to automated systems and gunners during battle.
Technical specifications
Length
2,011 meters stem to stern
Sublight Speed
14 MGLT [Thanks to the upgrades it is faster in speed (by a whole 1 MGLT) than the newer and smaller Dreadnaught-class Heavy Cruiser]
Hyperdrive rating
Class 5.1
Backup class 25
Shielding
High Redundancy Chempat Deflector Shield Generators [Shields provide roughly equal protection as the Original shields but use much less power.]
9K-4 Defense Field Generator [Mounted under the bridge to protect it in the event of catastrophic main shield failure]
Sensors
Rothana Heavy Engineering Multi-Band Tactical and Navigational Sensor Array
The change in weapon numbers is the first noted fact when most people first see the conversion.
Armament (Invincible-class)
Concussion missile tubes (6)
Turbolaser Cannons (12)
Quad laser cannons (30)
Tractor beam projectors (6)
Armament (Indomitable-class)
Quad Turbolaser Turrets (12) [seen on Lucrehulk-class]
Light Turbolaser Cannon Blisters (28) [Spread across the hull focused on old blind spots]
Concealed Homing Assault Proton Torpedo Tubes (2) [fire and forget in battle, no reloads]
Bridge Defense Autofiring Laser Cannon (6) [linked to the ships computer, they are able to intercept inbound missiles and craft with pinpoint accuracy]
Point Defense Laser Cannon (20)
Broadside Mass Driver Flak Guns (12) [Seen on Munificent-class]
Crew
3,500 Organic Crew
30,000 Droids (Types include but aren't limited to: Protocol Droids, Astromech Droids, Maintenance Droids, Medical Droids, Sanitation Droids, System Analysis Droids, Administration Droids and Catering Droids)
Passengers
200 Marines, 100 Basic Guest Rooms
Hangar [new on the Indomitable-class]
2 GX1 Short Hauler (2)
Up to 36 Starfighter size craft [Customer provides own fighters]
Cargo capacity
5,000 metric tonnes
Consumables
1 year
Price
That of the components plus labour and use of a shipyard berth.
Since this is a matter involving the upgrade of ships which have been made to different standards, from different metals etc the price will depend on your model.
This is not a cheap upgrade and due to thorough nature of the build is likely only to be available to rich Core Worlds, perhaps the Judicials, CSA etc
Emir Schmuel Kadram
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Emir of the Planet Rothana
Duke of the Ciutric Hegemony
Message edited by Emir_Kadram - Saturday, 26 April 14, 12:37 PM |
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| Mike | Date: Wednesday, 05 March 14, 11:34 PM | Message # 2 |
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| Okay, so, not a bad idea to refit the big old bastard.
Little concerned about the massive shield increase. It seems like it would make it nigh-on invincible unless you hit it with a fleet of cruisers or larger.
The armament has been massively increased, I'll note, but not unbefitting of a 2,000 meter ship.
Give me some time on this one, since it's just a design.
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| Emir_Kadram | Date: Thursday, 06 March 14, 0:04 AM | Message # 3 |
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| It's firepower output is equal to circa 55 Turbolasers on a regular turn, and 78 for a turn where it fires it's only two missiles.
It's firepower is somewhere around that of a MC80 Liberty type overall, depending on what fighters it has.
It's a poorly armed ship for 2km, and indeed poorly armed for 1.5km, but it's still better armed than most ships outside the Core where the longest you will see are 600m long at the most and usually just small corvette based fleets. It's sheer size with a more powerful (but still very moderate for it's size) armament than the predecessor, it's sheer bulk alone would put off most attackers. It's the perfect centerpiece of a fleet which has a long association with the Republic, for those which want a more dominating flagship than their neighbour but there's too much bureaucracy building them that big from scratch now or genuine militarists.
Pretty much could appeal to all kinds of people, it's ideally suited for defense but would be an imposing sight in attack, especially if the enemy were not properly trained or militarily equipped.
Emir Schmuel Kadram
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Techno Union Mission for the Senate, Representative
Junior Director of Diplomatic Relations, KDY
Minority Shareholder, Kuat Drive Yards
Emir of the Planet Rothana
Duke of the Ciutric Hegemony
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| Mike | Date: Thursday, 06 March 14, 9:58 AM | Message # 4 |
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| As you say, this is meant as a 'centerpiece' to a Core Worlds navy. As such, I expect it will have a rather hefty price tag. In terms of design, I can approve. However, I expect to be rather heavy-handed in regards to actually approving it for planetary use. I don't expect to see this ship in every navy across the RP, of course, but as a design, I can't find any real flaws in it, aside from having extremely high shielding on top of already good shielding.
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| Jace_Varitek | Date: Friday, 07 March 14, 11:30 PM | Message # 5 |
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| Quote Emir_Kadram (  ) Old structural braces reinforced with tensor fields and modern alloy rods inserted through main structure.
Please explain the meaning of this and its practical use in the RP.
Quote Emir_Kadram ( ) Concealed Homing Assault Proton Torpedo Tubes
What do we mean by "Assault Proton Torpedo"?
Quote Emir_Kadram ( ) Broadside Mass Driver Flak Guns (12) [Seen on Munificent-class]
What's the TEP on these?
Quote Emir_Kadram ( ) Light Turbolaser Cannon Blisters
How many guns to a "blister"?
Quote Emir_Kadram ( ) On average the upgrade is likely to cost 33%-50% the value of the ship.
I disagree. Because this is a complete overhaul of an existing design, I insist it cost marginally more than purchasing a new, comparable vessel. You're basically constructing a new vessel from the ground up on top of the additional labor of gutting an old ship.
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| Crown_Prince_Ordan | Date: Monday, 10 March 14, 0:17 AM | Message # 6 |
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| Assault Proton Torpedo - TEP Circa 12
Flak guns have a TEP of a blaster cannon. Totally incapable of harming capital ships but create flak clouds at this power that can tear apart starfighters which get close in or are unshielded.
1 Light Turbolaser to a blister, TEP 0.5
I disagree on the value, I think a lot of these probably have extreme antique value. Say a ship which was involved in several major battles, perhaps in a key role, in the Republic's history has a price 10x that of a newly constructed ship. The overhaul would be above the cost of constructing a new one (to the extent they are still constructed) but would be below the price of a ship with a famous provenance and history that make it more than the sum of its parts.
His Most Royal and Secular Majesty Henrik III
By the Providence of the Universe, of the Sovereign World of Alderaan, of Avirandel, Delaya, Avishan and Raisa and of His other Realms and Territories, Prince-Regent. Head of the Alderaaan Sector Commonwealth, Defender of Secularism and Steward of the Commenor Run. &c
Representative of Alderaan in the Galactic Senate.
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Chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee
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| Mike | Date: Monday, 10 March 14, 0:31 AM | Message # 7 |
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| I don't see how flak cannons have the 'TEP' of a blaster cannon.
They're multipurpose, for one thing, unless I'm mistaken. As for the Assault Proton Torpedo, I don't buy it as having only 12x the power of a turbolaser shot. Then again, I don't use the 'TEP' chart when factoring things in like this.
That's just me, though.
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| Crown_Prince_Ordan | Date: Monday, 10 March 14, 0:50 AM | Message # 8 |
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| These are not multipurpose cannons, simply a precursor equipped to carry only flak.
To quote the Flak Gun page
"One variant is a modified flak gun based on the ones found on Providence-class carrier/destroyers and Munificent-class star frigates. The all purpose mass driver cannon can carry quite a few kinds of ammunition."
This is not a multi-purpose variant, it fires flak shells at short ranges with no ability for conversion. It's flak is like this flak
An Advanced Proton Torpedo has 2x the firepower of a Proton Torpedo, an assault proton torpedo has 6x the fire of an advanced proton torpedo. So... 12 proton torpedos is the equivalent yield.
His Most Royal and Secular Majesty Henrik III
By the Providence of the Universe, of the Sovereign World of Alderaan, of Avirandel, Delaya, Avishan and Raisa and of His other Realms and Territories, Prince-Regent. Head of the Alderaaan Sector Commonwealth, Defender of Secularism and Steward of the Commenor Run. &c
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| Jamie_the_Hutt | Date: Friday, 04 April 14, 7:29 AM | Message # 9 |
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| Feedback or closure would be good on this.
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| Mike | Date: Tuesday, 08 April 14, 9:16 PM | Message # 10 |
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| A lot of Jace's questions need to be answered before we can proceed.
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