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Revised Kanz Sector Request
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| Alyn_Stark | Date: Sunday, 27 April 14, 12:56 PM | Message # 1 |
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| Lorrd and Kol Huro System Defensive Fleet and Emplacements-
Lorrd (Stationary)-
Kol Huro System (Stationary)-
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Lorrd (Fleet)-
- Flagship- 1x Affliction-class battlecruiser
- 36x Mark V superiority fighter
- 12x Eradication-class bomber
- 1x Herald-class communications corvette
- 4x Gozanti cruiser
- 36x Cutlass-9 Patrol Fighter (one squadron based off of trade station, one squadrons based out of Lorrd City, one squadron based out of Qatamer)
- 2x TL-1200 Transport (representing a fraction of House Garth's mining transport fleet, which is for the intents of the roleplay, unavailable. However, there is often a transport or two around Lorrd to shuttle sector-local items to different worlds. While most of House Garth's ships are unarmed or lightly armed, they are often crewed by men who serve in House Garth's personal army)
- 1x ILH-KK Citadel-class civilian cruiser (Tommen Garth's personal vessel, usually kept at his private landing pad on Lorrd)
- 2x Maka-Eekai L4000 transports (representing a portion of House Volmen's shipping fleet. House Volmen is more of a trader house and as such, values shipping space and ships over fighting vessels. However, House Garth's personal army is aptly trained, if not as capable as some directly war-oriented armed forces)
- 1x Minstrel-class space yacht (Jerrod Volmen's personal vessel, usually kept at his private landing pad on Lorrd. Turbolasers are removed and replaced with ion cannons for defensive purposes)
Kol Huro System (Fleet)- - 3x CR90 corvette
- 2x IPV-1 Patrol craft
- 36x Cutlass-9 patrol fighters (stationed on the FireStar)
- 72x Toscan 8-Q fighters (no concussion missiles) (stationed on FireStar)
Alyn Stark
Lord of House Stark
Governor of Kinyov Province
Owner, Stark Unified Defense (presumed)
Owner, Lorrd Engineering (presumed)
Message edited by Alyn_Stark - Saturday, 03 May 14, 11:41 AM |
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| Jamie_the_Hutt | Date: Sunday, 27 April 14, 5:41 PM | Message # 2 |
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| Please note all current Lorrdian military forces (Inc the Iron Guard) so we can consider it in context?
The Tri Mk VII is overpowered to be used in the numbers youre proposing, noone knows the power of the Torpedo array and so I'd like to see it replace with the known quantity of another patrol ship youve got like the PB-950, Gozanti or even a smaller number of larger IPV-1s.
Aw hell no, re any Morningstar-class. Denyany morningstars.
Numerically Kol Huro i'd be okay approving
Patrol Ships
3 CR70, stock factory model.
3 Gozanti Cruisers
48 fighters, one wing of relatively standard fighters nothing showy or custom. (Number reduced as Lorrd itself has so many)
Static Defenses
1 FireStar-class defense station (minus torpedo magazine) (stationed at Kol Huro II)
28x Gun Emplacement (four per world)
Numerically for Lorrd i'd be okay with approving
The Lorrdian Navy
Flagship- 1x Affliction-class battlecruiser (To be completed one month from the completion of this request if you wish to delay the Tetan order or 2 months if not.)
- 36 Mark V superiority fighter
- 12 Eradication-class bomber
1 Herald-class communications corvette
2 PB-950 Patrol Boat
4 Gozanti cruiser (doubling this number!)
6 Tri-MarK VII Interceptor (based off of the trade station) (As this is a relatively new ship if it even exists now, and there's only one example ever seen canonically, in a bad game, while the rest are stated to serve the Republic Security Force (it's only listed affiliation) I'll, now I've, done my research, vote to deny it's widespread application except for the RSF. Additionally it's just too heavily armed to be balanced.)
48 12 Cutlass-9 Patrol Fighter (one squadron based off of trade station, two squadrons based out of Lorrd City, one squadron based out of Qatamer)
House Stark (already approved)
1 Akira-class Cruiser
-24 R-41 Starchasers (or equivalent-size fighters)
-24 Nighthound-class transports
2 Balor-class Frigates
- 12 Cutlass-9 patrol fighters (or equivalent-size fighters)
-12 Nighthound-class transports
House Garth
2x TL-1200 Transport (representing a fraction of House Garth's mining transport fleet, which is for the intents of the roleplay, unavailable. However, there is often a transport or two around Lorrd to shuttle sector-local items to different worlds. While most of House Garth's ships are unarmed or lightly armed, they are often crewed by men who serve in House Garth's personal army)
1x ILH-KK Citadel-class civilian cruiser (Tommen Garth's personal vessel, usually kept at his private landing pad on Lorrd)
House Volmen
2 Maka-Eekai L4000 transports
[s]1 Disarmed Minstrel-class Yacht
Static Defenses for Lorrd
1 Repair Yard
1 Trade Station
- 15 Quad laser cannons
- 5 Turbolasers
4 Gun Emplacements
The Cutlass-9
I'm pretty confident it doesn't exist yet so I'd like to propose replacing it with the Z-95 Headhunter in this request and retconning this into all previous approvals, their armament isn't awfully different etc. It also matches up with the fact hyperspace equipped starfighters are meant to be very rare and expensive in this period and the basic Z-95 has none.
Or the Cloakshape, or any other generic period fighter with similar armament but no hyperdrive in general!
Deep cuts to your numbers? Why?
Lorrd (and this is just Lorrd not Kol Huro) as of my proposed numbers will have 156 Fighter Scale craft, considerable static defenses, 9 heavily armed freighter length ships, a Heavy Cruiser, a Cruiser, 2 Frigates and a Corvette.
This is too many ships for Lorrd. But so long as the fighters are either Z-95s or universally are a Cutlass-9 Model with no Hyperdrive then I'd be okay with it. Otherwise you could mount a massed raid using all your Cutlass-9s and probably wipe out a lot of worlds.
Also this size fleet will make Lorrd seen as openly militarist and paranoid and reduce the amity and sympathy to it in the Senate.
Jace, frankly I think even from my cuts, further are in order (maybe on the static defenses) to balance this out. Currently Lorrd might as well be Bastion in the mid teen ABYs for a player fleet to attack..
Jamulon Desilijic Tiure
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Message edited by Jamie_the_Hutt - Friday, 09 May 14, 8:53 AM |
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| Alyn_Stark | Date: Saturday, 03 May 14, 11:41 AM | Message # 3 |
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| So, a few changes, edited in the main request.
I. TriMark VIIs have been removed
II. MorningStar fighters have been removed
III. With the revelation that the stock CR70 is now unarmed, Kol Huro's space fleet has been updated to have 3x CR90s and 2x IPV-1s.
IV. Dropped Lorrd's 2x PB-950 patrol boats in favor of the 4x Gozanti cruisers
V. Dropped Lorrd's Cutlass-9 squadrons by one (12 fighters) by eliminating a squadron out of Lorrd City.
VI. Switched Jerrod Volmen's yacht for a Minstrel-class which has turbolasers removed and ion cannons mounted instead.
VII. No changes to Kol Huro ships, aside from removal of MorningStar and TriMark vessels. When talking, Jace and I felt that a diminished capital-ship presence at Kol Huro, coupled with the current platform amounts and a decently high fighter compliment would be sufficient. I am, however, willing to state that the Cutlass-9s at Kol Huro have had their hyperdrives removed.
Alyn Stark
Lord of House Stark
Governor of Kinyov Province
Owner, Stark Unified Defense (presumed)
Owner, Lorrd Engineering (presumed)
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| Jamie_the_Hutt | Date: Friday, 09 May 14, 9:01 AM | Message # 4 |
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| Lorrd looks ok but do not forget to mention the Iron Guard Fleet which forms part of the Lorrdian fleet, ergo, there's not been a dramatic drop in capital craft. Even with it, this is fine.
As for Kol Huro I vote to approve:
Kol Huro System (Fleet)-
3x CR90 corvette
3x IPV-1 Patrol craft
24x Cutlass-9 patrol fighters (stationed on the FireStar)
36x Toscan 8-Q fighters (no concussion missiles) (stationed on FireStar)
Kol Huro System (Stationary)-
1x FireStar-class defense station (stationed at Kol Huro II) - No missiles in magazines due to fault some years ago preventing the weapons loading.
28x Gun Emplacement (four per world)
Jamulon Desilijic Tiure
known as "Jamie the Hutt"
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Bey of the Cygnus Star Empire
Nephew to Jabba the Hutt
Associate Member of the Hutt Cartel
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| Alyn_Stark | Date: Friday, 09 May 14, 10:26 AM | Message # 5 |
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| I will include the Iron Guard vessels on the Fleets and Forces page, which is the primary reference, so no worries.
In regards to the Kol Huro fleet, are you aware that the FireStar is capable of supporting up to 240 fighters? Granted, I see you are willing to give me an extra IPV-1, but that hardly makes up for a lack.
Perhaps we can compromise, though.
36x Cutlass-9 patrol fighters
48x Toscan 8-Q (no concussion missiles)
This drops 2 squadrons, as well as leaving open space for the eventuality of new fighters built at Lorrd Engineering to replace the older ones.
Quote Jamie_the_Hutt (  ) 1x FireStar-class defense station (stationed at Kol Huro II) - No missiles in magazines due to fault some years ago preventing the weapons loading.
In regards to this, I actually preferred Jace's explanation, in which the missiles in particular were just considered an illegal addition. It leaves me with the opportunity to re-arm them, should I wish to do so in the future, but also means legal action can be brought against me if discovered.
Is this agreeable?
Alyn Stark
Lord of House Stark
Governor of Kinyov Province
Owner, Stark Unified Defense (presumed)
Owner, Lorrd Engineering (presumed)
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| Kerethon | Date: Friday, 09 May 14, 11:51 AM | Message # 6 |
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| Aye. Good to go
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