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Lorrd Engineering Sale Vessels
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| Alyn_Stark | Date: Sunday, 30 March 14, 8:28 PM | Message # 1 |
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| The following vessels would be marketed for sale to galactic community as a whole, though due to the issues with the Lorrdian Defense Fleet, etc, I would like to retcon so that, should these designs be approved, the defense fleet already has the listed vessel(s), of which numbers I shall specify at the bottom of the request.
Designation: Afflictor-class battlecruiser
Length- 800 meters
Hyperdrive- Class 5
Backup Hyperdrive- Class 8
Shielding- 3,000 SBD
Hull Strength- 1,500 RU
MGLT- 30
Specialized Note- Shielded and redundant circuitry, pulse-modulated circuits and cap drains to channel EM radiation away from vulnerable systems (greatly reduces effects of ion weaponry)
Armament-
- 12x Turbolaser batteries (arranged in 4x per battery for a total of 48 cannons)
- 30x Quad laser cannons
- 4x Proton torpedo launchers (ten torpedoes per launcher)
- 4x Concussion missile launchers (turreted; six missiles per launcher)
- 4x Tractor beam emplacements (2x fore port; 2x fore starboard)
Compliment- 48x Small craft
Crew- 2,100
Designation: Eradication-class bomber
Length- 9 meters
Hyperdrive- N/A
Shielding- 50 SBD
Hull Strength- 30 RU
MGLT- 50
Atmospheric Speed- 750 km/h
Acceleration- 2,000 G
Armament-
- 2x Laser cannons (wing mounted)
- 2x Ordnance pod (can hold three proton torpedoes per pod or four concussion missiles per pod or one space bomb per pod)
- 1x Under-slung proton rocket
Crew- 2
Designation: Mark V Space Superiority Fighter
Length- 9.4 meters
Hyperdrive- N/A
Shielding- 40 SBD
Hull Strength- 25 RU
MGLT- 100
Atmospheric Speed- 1,100 km/h
Acceleration- 4,000 G
Armament-
- 2x Heavy laser cannons (rapid fire, due to upgrades from Lorrd Engineering with rear-mounted heat sinks. Heat bleed-out means that warheads targeting these fighters cannot be fooled by chaff or flares once they have been shooting)
Crew- 1
Alyn Stark
Lord of House Stark
Governor of Kinyov Province
Owner, Stark Unified Defense (presumed)
Owner, Lorrd Engineering (presumed)
Message edited by Alyn_Stark - Sunday, 27 April 14, 8:56 AM |
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| Jamie_the_Hutt | Date: Friday, 04 April 14, 6:50 AM | Message # 2 |
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| These must be on hold now?
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| Alyn_Stark | Date: Saturday, 05 April 14, 3:19 PM | Message # 3 |
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| These would not be on hold, as they are being requested 1) As an existing part of the Lorrdian defense fleet and 2) Would already be marketed.
Alyn Stark
Lord of House Stark
Governor of Kinyov Province
Owner, Stark Unified Defense (presumed)
Owner, Lorrd Engineering (presumed)
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| Jamie_the_Hutt | Date: Saturday, 05 April 14, 7:42 PM | Message # 4 |
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| Eradication-class bomber seems way too heavily armed even as slow as they are, the cannons and missile pods make them a bit over-armed.
Who do you see buying the capital ship btw? I ask only because it seems to not fit a traditional niche
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| Alyn_Stark | Date: Saturday, 05 April 14, 9:13 PM | Message # 5 |
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| Well, the bomber is a traditional bomber platform, hence the low speed. Compared to the TIE bomber, however, it has a reduced warhead load for the blaster cannons.
As for the Afflictor-class, any world could buy it, technically speaking. It would make a nice center piece for any Outer Rim world, and, as we have seen with all the 'mini empires' springing up, not everyone has a Procurator offhand as a flagship. Core Worlds as well can make use of such a vessel.
Alyn Stark
Lord of House Stark
Governor of Kinyov Province
Owner, Stark Unified Defense (presumed)
Owner, Lorrd Engineering (presumed)
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| Jamie_the_Hutt | Date: Saturday, 05 April 14, 11:34 PM | Message # 6 |
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| Eradication-class bomber becomes an issue not because of its ordnance, its the Heavy Lasers with it..
An Outer Rim World needs a ship with more than a class 5 hyperdrive, I am also not convinced in an era where the Outer Rim is meant to be relatively badly defended and poor an 800m ship would be in their price range or niche.
Mon Mothma was saying circa 0 BBY that many Outer Rim worlds had nothing but a dozen obselete snubfighters to defend them... I think the idea of the majority of worlds having one of these let alone as a centerpiece doesn't really fit.
Quote Alyn_Stark (  ) 12x Turbolaser batteries (arranged in 4x per battery for a total of 48 cannons)
Can you stop doing the above por favor ? Just state number of cannons or turrets? Its confusing.
Quote Alyn_Stark ( ) 12x Turbolaser batteries (arranged in 4x per battery for a total of 48 cannons)
30x Quad laser cannons
4x Proton torpedo launchers (ten torpedoes per launcher)
8x Concussion missile launchers (turreted; sixteen missiles per launcher)
4x Tractor beam emplacements (2x fore port; 2x fore starboard
I certainly vote to deny any Concussion Missile Turrets on a ship already well armed, I am dubious on the Torp launchers, are they simply fixed forward or broadside firers?
Jamulon Desilijic Tiure
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Bey of the Cygnus Star Empire
Nephew to Jabba the Hutt
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| Alyn_Stark | Date: Sunday, 06 April 14, 7:08 PM | Message # 7 |
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| If you'd like, I'll take out the heavy lasers to give it an increased ordnance capacity, allowing it to carry more or more varied types of warheads.
I believe the Ruusan Regulations state that no ship over 600 meters can have anything faster than a Class 5 hyperdrive, but then again, isn't that the point of the Outer Rim? With a ship like this, most smaller worlds that could afford it (because let's be honest, payment options are just fine and dandy, and that way, more people can buy) could buy this ship and only need a small corvette or so to back them up. Then again, we don't have a lot of players at the moment in the RP, so most 'sales' of any company would go to an NPC world, pending a management approval, I would assume.
As for 0 BBY, that is post Clone Wars, so it's entirely possible at that point that such is true. This is 92 years before that.
I will continue to list the amount of batteries and how they are arranged for the ease of information. It helps people and also gives an idea in combat.
As for the concussion missile launchers, I'll drop it down to four with a magazine of 8 per launcher. I'll note that the weaponry is exactly equivalent to that of the Harrower-class I requested, and there the only fault found was that it was an old ship. Out of curiosity, why no mention of a weapons problem prior?
Alyn Stark
Lord of House Stark
Governor of Kinyov Province
Owner, Stark Unified Defense (presumed)
Owner, Lorrd Engineering (presumed)
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| Jamie_the_Hutt | Date: Sunday, 06 April 14, 7:28 PM | Message # 8 |
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| 92 Years before that in a peaceful era. This ship would take 5x as long as a class 1 to get anywhere. It's not like it can ever be useful for what outer rim worlds need (patrol and interdiction). The problem (as I see it) is that sure we can let another design go through, but this is never a design which will sell. Furthermore, it breaches the spirit of Ruusan, and I think we need to represent that in our decision here; it's not in the interest of the RP to start seeing bigger and bigger line ships, especially in the Outer Rim world which is known for the opposite to big line ships. If you just want one for Lorrd, I am more amenable than the idea that anyone else would buy it.
On the bombers, drop the lasers down to regular ones and keep the ordnance reasonable at 6 per launcher and I'm okay with the design.
If it's warhead weaponary on capital ship like this I'd like to see minimized. Especially with the way it's been used on previous occasions of firing a whole magazine in a post or so. If they are to be there they need to be limited to one round down the tube per post.
The Harrower-class stopped being reviewed -because- it was old. I never even scrutinized the armament in detail to be honest.
I also think in big capital ships in the true Cruiser classes like this you need to start making the choice of it having extensive anti-fighter firepower or anti-capital firepower - one needs to be diminished to balance the vessel and not make it a one ship fleet.
Jamulon Desilijic Tiure
known as "Jamie the Hutt"
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Bey of the Cygnus Star Empire
Nephew to Jabba the Hutt
Associate Member of the Hutt Cartel
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| Jace_Varitek | Date: Monday, 07 April 14, 11:31 AM | Message # 9 |
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| I have no problems with this, and I APPROVE of these designs provided the concussion missiles on the Afflictor-class are indeed reduced to 4 launchers with 6 missiles per launcher. Jamie raises some legitimate points, but for me they're points to consider when choosing whether or not to buy it, not necessarily when choosing whether or not to approve of the design. Ships still need to be requested at the point of transfer, and that's where I'd be more inclined to consider Ruusan-related issues. So I'm satisfied as far as the design goes.
But I vote to DENY Lorrd having one of them. Not because I'm against it, necessarily. But because I think it should be a separate request where I can take the time to compare it to Lorrd's total ship numbers without holding up the rest of this particular request. It's the same principle as my remarks on Ordan's request for Jerne. That, and, as I just mentioned above, I like to keep requests for designs and requests for actual ships separate from one another.
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| Alyn_Stark | Date: Tuesday, 08 April 14, 6:41 AM | Message # 10 |
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| Well, if the designs themselves are approved, then is this good? The weaponry stats have been edited.
Alyn Stark
Lord of House Stark
Governor of Kinyov Province
Owner, Stark Unified Defense (presumed)
Owner, Lorrd Engineering (presumed)
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